What if I’m wrong?

2008 October 7

I am ashamed to admit that I was in high school before I discovered that people of the Jewish faith worshipped the same God I did… that they worshipped God at all. Imagine my shock when I learned that we read the same scriptures, or at least significant parts of them.

Imagine my further chagrin when I realized that up to that time my entire religious education had been narrowly designed to deny me any knowledge of how similar other faiths were to mine. To say I was angry that I had been held in the dark and told lies was a gross understatement.

I had this epiphany when I was probably 14 or 15. Books are glorious things and reading dangerous to bigotry and ignorance. It was at that time that I became interested in learning about religions other than my own familial one. 

I had been raised by a mother who was raised by a mother who held very literal views of the Bible and what was written therein. My grandmother and mother were good people. Though they could be kind and thoughtful, they were also terribly ignorant about people of other faiths and what those faiths held true. They were religious bigots ~ to this day, that concept is one of the great inconsistancies of Christianity that I cannot reconcile.

Over time I found most religions have more commonalities, than we do differences. I found that many of the cherished traditional parables, and the morals they taught, were almost identical. We have many of the same prophets, many of the same tenets. I have to wonder if monotheistic religions follow the same God, and just have different names we pray to. We are not so dissimilar if you take the time to look. Even when you study multi-thestic religions there are so many similarities in teachings of love and acceptance, peace and earthly stewardship.

I think it was during these early teen years that was also the beginning of the end of my blind acceptance of organized church doctrine. The more I read, the more I learned, the more I saw what I felt to be hypocrisy and un-Christ-like inequities. 

How can you espouse brotherly love, and at the same time hate someone simply because they don’t agree with you? How can you teach tenets of ‘judge not’ and in the same breath tell someone they are going to spend eternity in Hell. How can you debase another religion in an effort to bolster your own? Why is it not enough to stand firm in your own beliefs without needing to question another’s faith? In a society of who can ‘cast the first stone,’ I don’t have a rock small enough to throw. Who am I, who are you, to judge anyone? 

At one church I attended when still in college, the choir director would go off on tangents about how the Pope was the anti-Christ. It was very bizarre.

Another friend contacted me not so many years ago, soliciting donations to help fund a mission trip his church was planning. When I asked him where the mission was going, he said Ireland. Ireland? Not some third-world country where there were still pockets of primitive natives? Apparently his church was organizing a trip for missionaries to go Ireland to convert ‘the natives’ from Catholicism to Protestantism. I just didn’t get it. (He didn’t get a donation either.)

My faith in God, Jesus and all that goes with that has stayed pretty much stable for the better part of 30 years. It’s all the other minutia ~  things like who is a sinner and unworthy of God’s love, or who is right and who is wrong ~ that has changed. What is basic to my beliefs, is that there is only One who has the authority to decide those issues.

Hubs accuses me of baiting my mother on matters of religion. In the most fundamental way, he’s right. My mother is not nearly as narrow minded as she once was, she is much less rigid in her beliefs, but I just want her to think. To not give me a rote answer to my questions, to automatically repeat back to me Chapter and Verse, but give me real in-depth answers to hard questions.

I’m not asking questions that many could call heresy just to aggravate her. I’m asking because I really want to know the answers. Not what we have been indoctrinated to repeat, but real answers that require you to go beyond what we believe to be the only truth.

The most angry I ever made her was when I engaged her in a debate about what denominations other than Christian-based religions believed that was in conflict to our beliefs. I asked the unthinkable:

“What if we’re wrong?”

For me, my faith doesn’t come solely from my early education, but from a real sense for me of ‘this is right.’ I still have questions and will continue to seek answers to those questions. I also believe that I might not get those answers until the end of this life.

19 Responses leave one →
  1. 2008 October 7

    I feel the same way about the answers. I believe what I believe, and that has changed over time, but while I believe what I believe is true I always temper that with the knowledge that my vision is severely limited, and I could very well be wrong about a whole lotta things.

  2. 2008 October 7

    “what if we’re wrong?”

    great question TARa.

    you made me think of the opposite, too. what if you/we are right?

    i like how you reminded also about how we can not and should not judge others. when i spent my adult life going from different church to different church as a visitor looking for a church i could feel comfy in, there was one thing that stood out that bothered me about some of the churches i visited. some of them (from up on the pulpit) would openly slam/insult other religions to the mass of people. i couldn’t accept that. i didn’t want to be at a church that that was condoned. that did not seem like brotherly love to me. it didn’t seem like church to me.

    i don’t like it when somebody tries to cram something down my throat. let me be and let me discover and explore on my own. i won’t cram anything down anyone else either. i strive to not do that. i hated that that’s how that felt while i grew up. so i don’t want to immulate that as an adult.

    we are all a work in progress.

    thanks for that question. it stopped me in my tracks and made me hmmmm when i was reading your post.

    g’night, beany

    [Tara R.] Beany… to me it’s all about living my life as I think I should to please God. How you live is your concern. I would love to find a home church where I felt comfortable and welcome. It just hasn’t happened yet.

  3. 2008 October 7

    oh too funny. i just NOW realized that your awesome pointed question is also the TITLE of this post. you keyed on it. wiped out, talk with you later, beany

    [Tara R.] Beany… hehe… I’m sneaky like that.

  4. 2008 October 7

    Tara, you just stated exactly how I feel about religion. Exactly! This is why I don’t currently attend church….I can’t sit and listen to things that I absolutely believe to be wrong on so many levels.

    [Tara R.] Cyndy… I have been so disillusioned with church, not my faith, not with God, but the very institutions which should be havens of love and understanding. And, they aren’t.

  5. 2008 October 7

    I’m a practicing Catholic and I have to admit that I’m very ignorant of other faiths and even other denominations, but only because I spend so much time struggling with my own.

    I think being a Christian has more to do with our journey to Christ, and less to do with being perfect as it.

    [Tara R.] Grace… it is a journey, and a wonderful journey. It is the roadblocks that keep getting thrown up in the way that discourage me. I want to know more about other religions, because I think this knowledge will help me understand my own faith better.

  6. 2008 October 7

    This is why I no longer consider myself Christian. At most, a deist, but oftentimes I will say spiritualist or Buddhist, or even existentialist. I question things all the time.

    [Tara R.] Sue… I still think of myself as Christian, but still more, maybe throw a little of everything into the mix. I do think of myself as more spiritual than religious.

  7. 2008 October 7

    I was raised Catholic. I’m raising my kids Episcopalian. (Mostly ’cause I like to give them hard spelling words.) Seriously, this is something I “panic” with every so often and my mother, who is 72, even more so: what if we’re wrong? Those moments are rare, indeed, but they are there. I’ve been friends with people of various faiths and of no faith. And I learned that from her, a woman who chose to do the right thing as often as doing the Church thing.

    [Tara R.] Patois… I recognize that ‘panic.’ I try to do that ‘right thing’ too, because the ‘Church thing’ is just not working for me.

  8. 2008 October 7
    Dina permalink

    This issue is also why I don’t attend church regularly. Almost every church I’ve visited boils down to the fact that the people attending are just that – people. People who gossip about each other WHILE IN CHURCH and after they leave or people who judge by how someone dresses or talks. To me, that is NOT why you should attend church and so the hypocrisy of what church should be about and what, in actuality, actually occurs are more often that not two separate things. Living in the bible belt, I am often given the “look” when explaining I don’t really belong to any particular church but, at the same time, regularly pray and try to be the best person/Christian I can be. Like you, I feel (and hope), in the end I will be judged not just by my words but by my actions. It constantly amazes me that “alleged” Christians say one thing and act another thinking that since they are members of church and attend regularly, they are better than me.

    I’ll get off my high horse now. Have a good one!

    [Tara R.] Dina… we really need to hang more often… we’re too much alike. Like we’ve always said, if we had met in high school we would have been friends, and Hubs and I wouldn’t have been. HA! Let me help you down from your horse, I’ll just step up on my soapbox. ;)

  9. 2008 October 7
    Dina permalink

    I’m ready to hang anytime – just name the place :)

    [Tara R.] Dina… what are your holiday plans? Heading to Ar-kansas? or staying home? We might be up that way depending on what we decided. I can’t remember if this is a traveling year or not.

  10. 2008 October 7

    I was raised Catholic. And taught by a very rare man in the Church. Our pastor, Monsignor Cummings, told me that God recognized all religions, as long as you were true to your beliefs. No one was going to Hell because he was a Buddhist, or an Anglican or a Baptist. What would get you sent to Hell was if you violated the tenets of your faith. Whatever it was. My faith is less specific, now, as an older and more aware individual. I’m not a practicing Catholic. And I don’t think I need to go to Church on Sunday to let God know that he/she and I still have a nice relationship.

    On the other hand, what if I’m wrong?

    [Tara R.] Lou… your Monsignor Cummings sounds like a very wise man. I like his philosophy… A LOT! I’m like you, I don’t need someone I see maybe once a week to tell me how I get along with God. We’re doing all right, thankyouverymuch!

  11. 2008 October 7
    Dina permalink

    We’re staying here – went to AR in June and I NEVER go to the in-laws for the holidays because it is way too stressful (you’d have to know my MIL to understand.) As always, would love to see ya if you get up this way (maybe we can sneak off for a drink (or two or three) while you’re in the area!

    [Tara R.] Dina… I lucked out… my MIL/FIL and I get along pretty good, not much drama there. There is an added incentive to head up your way for the holidays. JM’s BF will be visiting his parents in NC and I told her if we come up to TN, she could probably make arrangement to meet him somewhere. Her vote is for Bristol.

  12. 2008 October 7

    I think I became much stronger in my faith when I studied other faiths. As a history major, I did extensive study on the Reformation. I took classes on the history of Christianity. And, because I know how other faiths teach, I am even more committed to my own.

    [Tara R.] AFF… yes! That is it! When we try to understand other people, to learn about our shared beliefs, or especially conflicting ones, we can embrace those ideas that best exemplify how we feel and think.

  13. 2008 October 7

    You know how I feel, so all I will say is A-Freaking-men, sista!

    [Tara R.] Kori… amen, amen and amen.

  14. 2008 October 7

    I’m with you on this one. What if we’re wrong? First off, I’m a WASP, but I went to a high school that was about 65% Jewish. Most of the rest were Fundamentalist Christians(I’m Episcopalian). I was always struck, during those years, by the acceptance of all kinds of folks by the majority, and the narrow view of the world by the quite vocal (always with the prayers, the exhortations, the Fire & Brimstone) minority. My Nana was a Southern Baptist, so this is nothing new to me…But I have to say I prefer the fried chicken fellowship dinners of her church to all the damnation!

    [Tara R.] Melissa B… my maternal grandmother was Southern Baptist. My brother and I would spend summers going to Vacation Bible School at her church. Have to say some of the scariest summers I ever had. Fire and Brimstone and damnation, heady stuff for a little kid. But, agree the fellowship dinners were awesome.

  15. 2008 October 7

    I am amazed at what you’ve written here. I have been trying to figure out what it is I’m feeling as I’ve been on my own faith journey for a while now. (Finally, in my 40’s allowing myself to question what I’d grown up knowing as truth.) I had been trying to put it into words for myself. But you did it so much better than I’ve been able to.

    [Tara R.] Terri…thank you so much for that. I am still on my own journey and truly hope to find my answers.

  16. 2008 October 8

    i like most of you have questioned my beliefs/faith at one point in my life. i not only studied other faiths,i actually practiced quite a few of them to one degree or another.

    what i found for me was that the God i knew as a child, was what i was spending all this time searching for. this quest took most of my life. while i do agree that there are some similarities bewteen the different religions, for me is isn’t about “religion”. it is a personal relationship between you and God. you have to cultivate this relationsip as you would any other. it takes time and effort. there will be tears and anger and sadness just there are is in any relationship. for me it is the doctrinal differences that i disagree with.

    as for church, i don’t attend and i do miss it. i miss the fellowship and all that goes along with that. i too used to feel that the church was nothing more than a bunch of gossiping, backstabbing people. then i realized that i had the bar raised higher for these people just because they attended church. i think we are all guilty of that. just because a person attends church doesn’t mean that their character changes any easier than mine does. church is a good place for these kinds of people. they will learn of thier sin and hopefully repent and be a better christian for it.

    [Tara R.] Inge… I not looking for God… like I’ve said before, the Big Guy and I are tight. It’s all the other stuff that I wonder about. All the mythology if you will. I miss having a church family. The last time I felt welcome and loved in a church was when I was a young kid. Today anymore it seems like churches are so big and impersonal, no one gets to know everyone and it’s just another environment for cliques to form. I don’t want to attend a church for years and have the pastor one day after services thank me for visiting.

  17. 2008 October 8

    Incredible post Tara. We had a great home Church for a coupe years, until the pastor up and left abandoning the whole lot of us (about 100 people). We have had a terrible time finding someplace else that speaks to us through Him. I don’t know.

    It says someplace in the Bible that we should love the Lord our God with all of our mind, body and soul. Mind. It sounds like you are doing just that.

    [Tara R.] Chuck… I really do think God and I have a tight relationship. Even today something happened, something small, but the first thing i did was say Thank You. My questions aren’t so much about how to be closer to God, or how to have a stronger faith, but more about why we believe what we believe, what it actually means.

  18. 2008 October 9

    I grew up in a VERY religious setting. And that is an understatement. But it caused me to see many faulted people and concepts with the religion of my youth. I then searched for answers. But I felt that same sense of flaws. The main flaw being one of judgment–each religion is convinced theirs is the one and only right way to God. And the others will lead to damnation. In the end, for me, I waver from believing in no God or a God that isn’t needing to be idolized. But, I christened my daughter. Partly out of tradition and appeasing the family and partly out of a sense of What If I AM Wrong?

    [Tara R.] Nola… it is that ‘my way or no way’ that is most disturbing to me too. I have real issues with condemning someone only because he or she worships differently from me. I worry about my kids not being baptized. But, I also think that as adults they will be better prepared to make their own decisions regarding their faith or spiritual beliefs.

  19. 2008 October 11

    I love what Bill Maher said the other night. He said that Jesus’ teachings were great as philosophy – but these problems we have due to religion…I can’t stomach them. I find it best for me to just stay away.

    [Tara R.] April.. while not a big Maher fan, he’s right on this. There has been more killing, hatred and terrorism because religion, because of mutated religion, than any other reason.

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